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[astri13]

Where is Waldo Sam?

Uhm, is this some good-looking promo for next week or what? :) Quite frankly, I want to forget this one as quick as possible because all things considered? It wasn`t an episode of "Supernatural." By name maybe but it was an episode of a show with two leads who don`t really have chemisty and whom I don`t really care about. And this weird glorfied extra who was with them. The whole thing was off and if anybody REALLY needed an episode as proof as to how this show can only ever work as Sam&Dean, that was it.

So, SPN crew please protect JPad against further injury as I have to believe you gave him time off to heal and didn`t find a way to write him meaningfully into "Jo`s story."

So, this time we got more of Jo. And yeah, she is defined more but to quote Angel here: "I just can`t seem to care." I really don`t about her character, she doesn`t click with me. And she wasn`t even all that awful, some bratty little miss moments aside. Her connection with her Dad and yadda, yadda might even be moving and poignant but personally she left me cold. Which may or may not be the actress, I can`t even say.
I CAN say it`s not because the love interest stuff because as long as they keep the dynamic like this, there simply IS NO romance. Period. Was any of their scenes romantic instead of paternal? Because I sure as hell didn`t see it. And even so, the actors have very little acting chemistry. Dean and Officer Kathleen didn`t have rom-chem either but they did play well off each other. Mostly I have the feeling here they read their scenes together. *shrug*

Dean treated her like an older uncle. (And please no call-backs to the blog, please). He was "nice" in not ratting her out. He was annoyed that she was there. He tried to coach her and give her advice about life. He was supremely worried because he didn`t want her there in the first place and he felt responsible for this rookie. One he knows a bit more than the average P.I.P. and even knows the mother of. Hell, at that point he even thinks they were friends of his father at least. He respects that, see Missouri.
So yeah, he was worried. No different than he would have been for say Michael in "Something Wicked."

I don`t really want her to tag along on more hunts but if her storyline is kinda offscreen/onscreen in the background the development from rookie to hunter, fine.

Just, please lay it off with the "OMG, they have so much in common" anvils. She is still to immature and for somebody with Dean`s emotional scars that would never be right.

She could have owned up a lot more to her actions to her Mom and hell, if she wants to hunt why doesn`t she? What`s Ellen gonna do? She could even go back to school and hunt from there if she wants to.
Also I`m not sure if she really got what the hunting life entails, day to day. I think she still has the romanticized version in her head.


Sam? Sammy, Sammy-doo, where are you? I bet JPad was happy to got a couple of good naps and all but couldn`t they have moved around his involvement a bit more. He is a CO-LEAD. Here he was window dressing.

Dean? Unwilling mentor isn`t a bad side to him, bit more somber and mature (not that he usually isn`t) but I don`t really dig the not-chemistry with Jo. I prefer him partnered up with Sam even though he gets to be more jokster then.
The ghostbusters reference though? Gold.
Oh, and he was a little natural at the shooting range. Aww, fanfic lives. Heck, I even wrote it in mine that he was the gun and Sam the knife person. Hee.

Lying was a bad decision and he owned up to it.
Oh, and of course it`s always nice to see some more - totally unwarranted guilt - laid on his shoulders. God, how can he even stand upright?

Which brings me to Ellen whom I meta-d a bit already. I can get her being overprotective and angry about the lie BUT I say it again, YOUR ADULT daughter is not their responsibility. you have beef? Take it up with her. And if she tells you to shut up and she`ll do what she wants to (which yeah, valid option), you have to shut up and let her. She is not your possession.
Heck, John Winchester was NEVER this bad with his kids.

And very nice to lay the blame for John`s very vague screw-up on Dean because this is the Klingon Homeworld and all. Oh wait, it`s really not. Yeah, so maybe you saw the parallels in the situation but how about this IMPORTANT parallel. Your husband was an adult who knew the dangers of hunting. John Winchester didn`t put your five year old kid as Shtriga-bait or something.
Jo equally is an adult - if she acts like it or not - so the blame doesn`t get shifted onto Dean here.
And what`s with the "you`re totally family, move in" attitude if you hated their father`s guts? I read the she "gave them the benefit of the doubt" explanantion. The hell? Is that what you give children of criminals? The "benefit of the doubt and maybe they won`t turn out trash like their dad?" Everybody starts with a clean slate as far as I`m concerned.

Whatever John did - and I give HIM the benefit of the doubt here, maybe YOUR husband screwed up - you can`t take it out on Dean and to lay it on his shoulders like that was petty and mean-spirited.
Nice to see how you waited this long to tell your daughter either.

As for Jo`s reaction? She totally blamed him. Okay she just got the news but the way she flung it in his face? Not impressed. Wesley Crusher showed more maturity towards Captain Picard and he was the ACTUAL guy who had gotten his dad killed.


Quick word to the horror storyline. Considering the stuff I`ve read before I felt letdown. It wasn`t nearly as atmospheric as I had hoped.
Maybe they can take on the ghost of Lizzie Borden now? ;)

Well, I for one will enjoy the break from the Roadhouse greatly and frankly hope to never see such a "brotherless" episode again. I mean in Scarecrow they were separated, in Imtod they only talked slumber party style but there was still a feeling of togetherness.

Oh, and squee am I excited for next week. And the week after that. And the one after that. :)

Comments

[legoline.livejournal.com]

*muters* God Jo completely ruined the ep for me.

[astri13.livejournal.com]

It was just not Supernatural, it was the Jo and Dean-show. Which I have zero interest in watching, thank you very much. Not even Dean is fun with her. He needs Sam to play off. They`re the dream team, everybody else is window dressing.

[legoline.livejournal.com]

Exactly. The beginning with the Katie Holmes reference was fun - and it wentstraight downhil from there.

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

I don't even want her "developing in the background". Why waste the words in a script on her? The thing is, I think Dean and Sam can be perfectly okay interacting with other people for short periods of time but these are not the people. This is not how to do it. Jo sucks the life out of the scenes. The only reason some of those "quiet" scenes were good frankly is because Jensen was really good and she didn't distract from it. I know people keep praising the actress but aside from a CSI episode I've never seen her in anything else and I don't think she's good at all. She has about two expressions--pout and snirk.

You are right it didn't even feel like Supernatural.

[astri13.livejournal.com]

scenes were good frankly is because Jensen was really good and she didn't distract from it.

But she is even sucking the energy right out of him. It`s just, some actors can`t play togehter, they don`t generate something between them. JAlba doesn`t have a range either but she and Jensen had sparkle.
I mean he was very adult and somber with her but I don`t know even when Dean is most Emo or different like in Cspwdt, Dean isn`t so "colorless"? I don`t know how to explain it. It was rather boring to watch.

I`ve never seen Alona Tal in anything else. Maybe she was really suited for this character on VM everybody keeps praising her for? That happens, some actors are good in a certain type and a certain type only.

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

I don't disagree, but I think he acted them fairly well. We got something, which more than can be said for what we got from Joanna Beth Harvelle. She's an energy suck. She wasn't good with Ellen(I may not like Ellen but the actress is good at least). She wasn't good with Dean. I have no doubt if she'd had to anything more than stand next to Sam or exchange one sentence, she wouldn't have been good with him either.

[astri13.livejournal.com]

I didn`t mean to say he was bad in his scenes, he wasn`t but even the best actor can`t create something out of thin air. It`s like when you just know these are two people who act instead of seeing two characters interacting. Even if one throws them out of the loop it`s already enough.

Oh, and Harvelle really is their name now. Hm, I had thought Ellen`s husband was called Harvey or something, so they created "Harvelle" because Ellen Harvelle? If I was a writer I would giggle a bit.
Also wasn`t Jo Jolene last week? Now it`s Joanna Beth? What`s next? Josephine? At least nitpicking is fun.

PS:

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

Much love to Ridley's Brotherhood AU. Now THAT would be how to bring in other characters(I'm not saying exactly but it's a place to start). Those are the type of characters to be showing us.

Re: PS:

[astri13.livejournal.com]

Much love to Ridley's Brotherhood AU. Now THAT would be how to bring in other characters(I'm not saying exactly but it's a place to start). Those are the type of characters to be showing us.

Yes, even characters mentioned in passing - there is a feel of such richness there. Pastor Jim, Mac, Caleb (and I know he is a Dean-clone but I like that he seems to really put Dean first and protect him fiercely), Joshua, this Durant etc.
Oh, and did you read the last ones where she deals with the roadhouse stuff? I gotta say I sniggered for two days about Caleb calling Jo "Sweet Valley Hunter." Hee.

Re: PS:

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

Oh yes, I loved that. Because the roadhouse gang deserves to be mocked...as frequently as possible.

Re: PS:

[astri13.livejournal.com]

I even kinda like Ash, cliché and all. If he could move away from the Roadhouse and the guys wouldn`t just conveniently call him for perfectly normal research, I`d like to see him become a geeky buddy for Dean. That`s what Dean could need: a buddy not a love interest. Look at Gordon, Dean looks for a peer to hang out with every now and then who isn`t Sam. Perfectly normal. Could even be - shocking - a woman.

[aizjanika.livejournal.com]

I'm loving reading this, but this:

And very nice to lay the blame for John`s very vague screw-up on Dean because this is the Klingon Homeworld and all.

just made me LOL like an idiot. *g*

Quick word to the horror storyline. Considering the stuff I`ve read before I felt letdown. It wasn`t nearly as atmospheric as I had hoped.

Yeah, I had hoped this one might actually be a little spooky, especially since serial killers used to be a real fear of mine, but I didn't find it scary at all, and I didn't even really feel Jo's jeopardy. What scared me was Dean crawling through the pipes! *g* That would be my worst nightmare!

Well, I for one will enjoy the break from the Roadhouse greatly and frankly hope to never see such a "brotherless" episode again. I mean in Scarecrow they were separated, in Imtod they only talked slumber party style but there was still a feeling of togetherness.

I agree. Scarecrow was the first episode I saw, and what drew me into the show immediately was the relationship between the brothers. That's what intrigued me, so I think the brother relationship was very present in that episode, even though the guys were separated.

Oh, and squee am I excited for next week. And the week after that. And the one after that. :)

Me too! I really hope they drop the whole roadhouse thing now, though I doubt they will. Too many people seem to like Ellen.

[astri13.livejournal.com]

just made me LOL like an idiot. *g*

Man, I almost expected a scene where all the hunters gather and ceremoniously turn their backs on them to let all know that

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<i>just made me LOL like an idiot. *g*</i>

Man, I almost expected a scene where all the hunters gather and ceremoniously turn their backs on them to let all know that <strikeWorf andKurn</strike> Sam and Dean are now excommunicated from the Hunter Network they just heard about.

That and Jo being an immature Wesley Crusher at the end: "Your father totally killed my father, bastard." Weird.

<i>Me too! I really hope they drop the whole roadhouse thing now, though I doubt they will. Too many people seem to like Ellen.</i>

Don`t remind me. It caused my the write a whole-ass meta on behalf of the guys because sometimes it feels like Dean and Sam are not the heroes of the show for some anymore. :(

[mareen.livejournal.com]

Uhm... almost total agreement here, just that I thought they had a little sister/big brother chemistry more than a niece/uncle chemistry.

Also, I really want to know how they always pick the one actress that has the least sexual chemistry with Jensen Ackles to play his (potential) love interest. Because I don't get it.

And I really liked the horror atmosphere of the episode.

[astri13.livejournal.com]

Uhm... almost total agreement here, just that I thought they had a little sister/big brother chemistry more than a niece/uncle chemistry.

Well, anything BUT romantic chemistry. To everybody who says this can evolve into more, I only say: I like my incest nice and GAY, thank you very much. :)

Also, I really want to know how they always pick the one actress that has the least sexual chemistry with Jensen Ackles to play his (potential) love interest. Because I don't get it.

I have asked myself this very question because holy hell, I don`t think much about the acting talents of JAlba and KK but at least Jensen had chemistry with them. As did he with a nice percentage of the weekly chicks.
Why this perverse glee in making the love interest chem-free?

And I really liked the horror atmosphere of the episode.

Hm, I was really psyched about reading the H.H.Holmes story, I had imagined more stuff in an actual horror mansion. And since I didn`t care about Jo, her Kill Bill deal left me cold.
As it was the most atmosphere I got was from having low-quality, blurry clips that at least looked like an old horror movie.