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Totally random observation about the latest episode which seques into a mini-meta about Dean and his women.

You know I thought so back in Season 1 but intensive rewatching of a certain scene in "What should and what should never be" confirmed it for me.

The scene where Mary opens the door, she looks a lot like Julie Benz - I`m thinking the Angel-parts where Darla was human, a bit frail and not wearing the typical Darla-seduction make-up. Back in Faith I believe Dean really connected with Layla spiritually but damn, she is probably the woman coming closest to physical likeness with Mary he ever has - and ever will - met.
It`s probably just a weird coincidence with casting but I was really baffled by it. And somehow it`s freaky too.

Especially since I believe and WSAWSNB seems to confirm this, Dean prefers brunettes. Not that he`d say not to a hot blonde but he genuinely has the most chemistry with dark-haired girls on the show: Hailey, Andrea, Tessa, the Crossraods Demon, Tara, now Carmen. Cassie - okay type fits, chemistry not so much. Sarah and Madison would probably have been right up his alley too but Pimp-the-Sam wins out. :)

With the blondes though it never really works out: Jess was taken, no flirting with Bloody Mary!Charly or Asylum!Kat (too young?) or the stewardess or Home!Jenny (too much emotional turmoil?), Meg was adversary, Rebecca got the Shapeshifter, Jo was filed away as kid-sister

So okay, Layla was dying and all but when Dean was too he still got his flirt on with her. :) We see from Carmen he prefers Mary`s personality in a woman but maybe the physcial likeness not so much? Because they`ll never reach the perfection of his Madonna Mary anyway? Unless it`s a really, really resemblance? God Layla even prayed and probably died on him. Maybe that would have been too weird ultimately. Hello Oedipus.
On the other hand, Jess not only bore a resemblance to Mary (and Dean) on the outside but seemingly to fun-loving Dean on the inside too. While dark-haired, career-driven, more analytical Cassie goes more in the Sam-end of things. No matter half of fandom believes they`re doing each other. This whole family would be Sigmund Freud`s wet dream. :-p

Oh, and speaking as one: where the hell are REDHEADS? *grumble* Small, chubby redheads. Can`t go wrong with that boys, trust me. ;-)

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Date: 2007-05-08 02:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] dotfic.livejournal.com
I'd say Dean definitely had a thing for brunettes. The blondes for Dean do seem to represent sister/mother types. Sam has Jess, but I think for Sam also, as for Dean, every blonde is their mother who has to be saved. (I guess that's a fairly Freudian take on it).

The Cassie=Sam and Jess=Dean parallel has come up in discussion before and it actually makes sense to me (and I don't even think Sam and Dean are doing each other). But that they'd seek out love interests with qualities that remind them of what's best about each other -- growing up as close as they did and being separated at the time Sam met Jess and Dean met Cassie, there's gotta be some kind of displacement issues going on.

Or, y'know, we're reading too much into it. *g*

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Date: 2007-05-08 09:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
Sam has Jess, but I think for Sam also, as for Dean, every blonde is their mother who has to be saved. (I guess that's a fairly Freudian take on it).

Interesting how after Jess Sam went brunette all the way. Maybe because now he had lost his very own blonde angel.

Or, y'know, we're reading too much into it. *g*

What is this "reading too much into it" you speak of? I`m not familiar with the concept? :-p

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Date: 2007-05-08 06:12 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
Aaaw, I love it when you overinterpret things *pats* :-) (I really thinkit's a coincidence of casting...)

That said, I loved Layla so much. She'sthe only female characte I would have liked Dean to spend some time with. She was awesome and she was exactly what Dean needed. She had that inner peace, you know, she could say "Everything is going to be fine." and mean it.

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Date: 2007-05-08 09:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
Aaaw, I love it when you overinterpret things *pats* :-) (I really thinkit's a coincidence of casting...)

I know but it`s such FUN to overinterpet. *g*

That said, I loved Layla so much. She'sthe only female characte I would have liked Dean to spend some time with. She was awesome and she was exactly what Dean needed. She had that inner peace, you know, she could say "Everything is going to be fine." and mean it.

Yeah, she had an inner strength that defied the usual TV law of "to be a strong woman, you have to be bitchy".

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Date: 2007-05-08 09:35 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
I know it's fun :-p

Yeah, she had an inner strength that defied the usual TV law of "to be a strong woman, you have to be bitchy".


Exactly. I LOVED how impressed Dean was by her.

Btw. do you have a mobile? Wanna email me your number just in case? I'll call you at home some time between 8 and 9 today if that's okay?

And Meena said Birmingham's a really small airport and easiest thing would be to meet outside of arrivals.

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
Btw. do you have a mobile? Wanna email me your number just in case? I'll call you at home some time between 8 and 9 today if that's okay?

Yes. And yes, gonna email it to you later. And that`s fine.

And Meena said Birmingham's a really small airport and easiest thing would be to meet outside of arrivals.

Okey-dokey. I`m pretty sure we`re gonna find each other. Just whip out a fangirl detector build from an old walkman. :)

Btw: I send you a little something, CD with my songvids. Just so you know it`s not crazy stalker mail. *g*

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:09 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
Yes. And yes, gonna email it to you later. And that`s fine.


Yay, cool.

Just whip out a fangirl detector build from an old walkman. :)

Reminds me, I wanted to wear a shirt "I kinda have this problem with flying" but I forgot to order it in time :-/

Btw: I send you a little something, CD with my songvids. Just so you know it`s not crazy stalker mail. *g*


And there goes my hope I'd get stalker mail *sigh* ooooh, the mail just came! *rips envelope open* (And I forgot, did you want my vids, too?)



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Date: 2007-05-08 10:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
And there goes my hope I'd get stalker mail *sigh*

Aww, maybe after the Con I could send you a bloody ear or something. :-D

(And I forgot, did you want my vids, too?)

Oh sure, I love songvids.

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:20 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
Aww, maybe after the Con I could send you a bloody ear or something. :-D


That'd be great.


Okay, NO way I'm sending you my songvids. No fucking way. I just watched Legacy, ok? That's a bloody freakin' masterpiece. You made my cry. It's brillint. The way you squeezed the memories in, especially the one where Sam's by the window and remembers Dean from IMTOD and the song and everything? Holy shit, girl. I'm in awe. I have much to learn. Jesus Christ.

Did you ever upload it? Because... damn girl, it's so good.

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
Okay, NO way I'm sending you my songvids. No fucking way. I just watched Legacy, ok? That's a bloody freakin' masterpiece. You made my cry. It's brillint. The way you squeezed the memories in, especially the one where Sam's by the window and remembers Dean from IMTOD and the song and everything? Holy shit, girl. I'm in awe. I have much to learn. Jesus Christ.

I think my ego just grew wings and flew away. :) Really, thank you but there are lots better out there. I still have trouble sometimes to get the transitions right and make it fit with the rhythm. So yes way, I most definitely wanna see your stuff.

Did you ever upload it? Because... damn girl, it's so good.

I don`t even know how/where to upload something like this. And it would take me at least an hour to do so, probably longer since the file is so big.

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
Yeah but my stuff isn't nearly as good as that. Seriously.

Also? I've now seen (hanks to you) the SPN_MENACE vid for the first time. Jesus Christ, I laughed tears and my belly hurts. So good.

(And I loved your Puppet vid, too. The Tom & Jerry song is one of the few tv themes I'm still missing :-p )

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
Yeah but my stuff isn't nearly as good as that. Seriously.

I don`t believe that. That`s what you`re always saying about your fic and it`s not true. Gimme. :) Those vids take so much work, it`s a shame if nobody sees them.
Maybe someday I`ll work up the courage to upload something. Do you have to pay for this?

Also? I've now seen (hanks to you) the SPN_MENACE vid for the first time. Jesus Christ, I laughed tears and my belly hurts. So good.

It`s hilarious, isn`t? The voice-overs just fit so perfectly "Anakin Skywalker...meet Obi Wan Kenobi". :D

And I loved your Puppet vid, too. The Tom & Jerry song is one of the few tv themes I'm still missing :-p )

That was some silly thing I did a couple years ago because I loved the puppet ep so much and it just fit.

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Date: 2007-05-08 10:50 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
I don`t believe that. That`s what you`re always saying about your fic and it`s not true. Gimme. :)

Yeah but I'm better at writing than vidding. Honestly :-) I've got only 8 SPN vids. I love vidding but I hardly do it because I'm not that good at it :-)

Well, I could host them at my webspace. Or I could be really greedy and cheeky and ask if we can upload them to our German websites...because we don't have many vids and I really love yours :-)

The voice-overs just fit so perfectly

Definitely. Awesome.

The Puppet ep is love :-)


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Date: 2007-05-08 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
I've got only 8 SPN vids. I love vidding but I hardly do it because I'm not that good at it :-)

See, you managed more than me. It takes too long and Movie Maker has this penchance to freeze up every thirty seconds just to drive me nuts. :)

Or I could be really greedy and cheeky and ask if we can upload them to our German websites...because we don't have many vids and I really love yours :-)

Wow, on one hand I think all this work and what the hell, put them up, on the other I still see all the hick-ups. But okay, I`m taking your word for it. :) So if you want to, you are welcome to upload them to the website.

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Date: 2007-05-08 11:36 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
See, you managed more than me.

Quality counts, not quantity! :-)

But okay, I`m taking your word for it. :) So if you want to, you are welcome to upload them to the website.


YAAAAY! THANK YOUUUUU!!! And once I've uploaded them I'll give youthe URL and you can post them on your LJ too if you like.

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Date: 2007-05-08 11:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] astri13.livejournal.com
And once I've uploaded them I'll give youthe URL and you can post them on your LJ too if you like.

Cool, thanks. Aaand I`m off to the hairdresser now to pretty up for Jensen. :)

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Date: 2007-05-08 11:48 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] legoline.livejournal.com
See? I went last week :-p

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