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astri13Few thoughts on SPN 5.05 because
I liked Siege's episodes in Season 4 but this one was a disappointment.
So, this was the Season's "Metamorphosis" and I think it pretty much sucked as much.
Surprisingly, Paris Hilton didn't do a bad job. I guess she can do self-parody.
The MOTW part also wasn't bad but the humor in the whole thing was rather lackluster to me.
You know I could take Sam spouting the lore again though it always sounds so lecture like, I just don't dig how they do the exposition. The Spanish, well, he lived in California for a while where it's not uncommon. Though it dashed another hope of mine that Dean might speak a few bits of a different language. People who didn't go to College are not by default more stupid, College-educated writers. Jeez.
But performing autopsies? For which you need goddamn medical training. You know in Stargate when Carter started out a brilliant astrophysicist but increasingly for plot laziness she became an expert in every science known to man? That was annoying. This is annoying as well.
Dean was over the top jerkish and controlling in ways he isn't in the majority of episode to make a point. Only, that point loses a lot of validity because he isn't like that most of the time. Sure, he can be too big brotherly but if the episode hadn't anvilled it so much, the whole thing could have played out more subtle.
And Sam? Where is the self-aware guy from the end of episode 2? Because at points I felt like someone had swapped him for his earlier Seasons self.
"One of the reasons I went with Ruby was because you were too bossy." What? Last Season he said Ruby said what Dean would have said and that's how she got her in. Also, Sam went with Ruby when Dean was dead. What, was he too bossy from hell? Come on. Also, it came across as "I had much more freedom while you were gone." Nice, Siege, nice.
Also, Sam said Ruby made him feel stronger and more in control. And no one, especially Sam in hindsight, sees the irony in that? Because Ruby did control him, much more than Dean or even John ever has. She lied and manipulated him. Just her method was different. She did it from a position on her knees, quite literally sometimes. And he does not see that all the feeling of strong and in control that came from that was just a dupe? He would be okay with someone leading him around if they just did it like that?
"Here, make a fool of me, just do it in a way that spares me ego"? Aaaaaaahhhh.
Of course Dean was too controlling here and of course I can see how Sam would not want to put up with this. Noone would want to put up with this. But to bring up Ruby as the shining example basically was just a stupid point.
Also, the good old "of course it's my fault but I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't..." is a roundabout way of saying "it is your fault." I have done that as well but I'm not kidding myself on it.
At least we know Sam knows about the first seal so that is one more discussion that can hopefully be put to rest now.
However, the end of Dean handing Sam the keys was lackluster to me. Sam has driven before, Sam has found hunts before, Sam has lead on hunts before. Nothing will be fixed because of that.
Not to mention where is the compromise? "Hey, our relationship isn't working so this is what you need to change" "ah, okay"
Two people need to change things, otherwise nothing changes at all. And quite, frankly, when you sing your own little version of "R.E.S.P.E.C.T, find out what it means to me", you do it with a healthy dose of offering some in return. Or the other person demanding it in return at least.
How about
"You boss me around and we can't live like that."
"Okay, I'll try not to. But you looking at me like I'm stupid all the time bothers me, you know."
"Okay, then I'll work on that."
Just with better dialogue.
And voila, you have two people working on their own unpleasant habits to make the relationship better for the both of them.
Or, which is really my main interest, make them as individual characters more pleasant to view. We are in Season 5 now and I'm far less generous with attitudes that in real life make me wanna punch the snuffing out of people as I would be in a Season 1 or 2 of a show. I'm also far less generous with character growth having dangled before me and snatched away again.
What I saw in this episode was more or less regression to me. So, back to "Meh."
I liked Siege's episodes in Season 4 but this one was a disappointment.
So, this was the Season's "Metamorphosis" and I think it pretty much sucked as much.
Surprisingly, Paris Hilton didn't do a bad job. I guess she can do self-parody.
The MOTW part also wasn't bad but the humor in the whole thing was rather lackluster to me.
You know I could take Sam spouting the lore again though it always sounds so lecture like, I just don't dig how they do the exposition. The Spanish, well, he lived in California for a while where it's not uncommon. Though it dashed another hope of mine that Dean might speak a few bits of a different language. People who didn't go to College are not by default more stupid, College-educated writers. Jeez.
But performing autopsies? For which you need goddamn medical training. You know in Stargate when Carter started out a brilliant astrophysicist but increasingly for plot laziness she became an expert in every science known to man? That was annoying. This is annoying as well.
Dean was over the top jerkish and controlling in ways he isn't in the majority of episode to make a point. Only, that point loses a lot of validity because he isn't like that most of the time. Sure, he can be too big brotherly but if the episode hadn't anvilled it so much, the whole thing could have played out more subtle.
And Sam? Where is the self-aware guy from the end of episode 2? Because at points I felt like someone had swapped him for his earlier Seasons self.
"One of the reasons I went with Ruby was because you were too bossy." What? Last Season he said Ruby said what Dean would have said and that's how she got her in. Also, Sam went with Ruby when Dean was dead. What, was he too bossy from hell? Come on. Also, it came across as "I had much more freedom while you were gone." Nice, Siege, nice.
Also, Sam said Ruby made him feel stronger and more in control. And no one, especially Sam in hindsight, sees the irony in that? Because Ruby did control him, much more than Dean or even John ever has. She lied and manipulated him. Just her method was different. She did it from a position on her knees, quite literally sometimes. And he does not see that all the feeling of strong and in control that came from that was just a dupe? He would be okay with someone leading him around if they just did it like that?
"Here, make a fool of me, just do it in a way that spares me ego"? Aaaaaaahhhh.
Of course Dean was too controlling here and of course I can see how Sam would not want to put up with this. Noone would want to put up with this. But to bring up Ruby as the shining example basically was just a stupid point.
Also, the good old "of course it's my fault but I wouldn't have done it if you hadn't..." is a roundabout way of saying "it is your fault." I have done that as well but I'm not kidding myself on it.
At least we know Sam knows about the first seal so that is one more discussion that can hopefully be put to rest now.
However, the end of Dean handing Sam the keys was lackluster to me. Sam has driven before, Sam has found hunts before, Sam has lead on hunts before. Nothing will be fixed because of that.
Not to mention where is the compromise? "Hey, our relationship isn't working so this is what you need to change" "ah, okay"
Two people need to change things, otherwise nothing changes at all. And quite, frankly, when you sing your own little version of "R.E.S.P.E.C.T, find out what it means to me", you do it with a healthy dose of offering some in return. Or the other person demanding it in return at least.
How about
"You boss me around and we can't live like that."
"Okay, I'll try not to. But you looking at me like I'm stupid all the time bothers me, you know."
"Okay, then I'll work on that."
Just with better dialogue.
And voila, you have two people working on their own unpleasant habits to make the relationship better for the both of them.
Or, which is really my main interest, make them as individual characters more pleasant to view. We are in Season 5 now and I'm far less generous with attitudes that in real life make me wanna punch the snuffing out of people as I would be in a Season 1 or 2 of a show. I'm also far less generous with character growth having dangled before me and snatched away again.
What I saw in this episode was more or less regression to me. So, back to "Meh."
