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astri13The latest episode seemed to have picked up on a point where I seem to part ways with the show, namely the brother`s attitude to the Supernatural.
Recently there seem to be a theme of Dean haaaates them and Sam relaaaates to them (and they always did) anvils, that I find to be taken out of context.
In Roadkill the brothers were faced with a pretty, nah gorgeous woman and Dean didn`t make a move on her once, in fact he seemed to be PMSing in the ep. Whereas Sam did a Roma Downey/J.Love Hewitt/Michael Landon impersonation. The "twist" at the end revealed Molly to be a ghost and that seemed to be suitable explanation. And to a degree it was.
Bloodlust made a point about telling us how Dean has been raised to "hate these things". Which honestly threw me because I never got this big hate-vibe from him before. Does he like ghosts, shapeshifters and wendigos? Clearly not since I`m guessing the Winchesters encountered a lot of them in their days and all evil, killing bastards.
But still I see it more like a soldier, a soldier might hate the "enemy" as a concept or homogenous group or as Dean says in Wendigo "killing as many evil sons of bitches I can find" but do we really think he takes the time and effort to hate on every single one of them personally? Really? Or does he mostly just not give a shit and kills them? The latter seems to be more Dean to me.
Hate is something quite personal to me. Do the Winchesters hate the YED? For sure. Did Dean hate the Shtriga? Good case for it. Shape Shifters in general? Maybe a bit. Meg the Demon? I`m voting yay. But that doesn`t mean he hates on every Tom, Dick and Harry ghostie they encounter.
And that`s where Roadkill went overboard to me. It seemed awfully personal with him. So okay, he was annoyed at having to deal with her and uncomfortable and possible asking why the fuck she couldn`t move on by herself and everything was shown through her slightly distorted view of the boys but holy crap, subtlety is not for little men. I don`t mind him being cold and brusque, it`s not out of his character but like a real person he usually has reasons for being at his most jerkish. Like for example with the father in Cspwdt.
And Sam, I really don`t think growing up Sam was a big political activist for the rights of ghosts and werewolves. :) He wanted freaking out of this life, I hardly imagine he did give much thought to the evil entities out there, other than "why the hell must WE hunt them?" That`s not so much viewing grey as not liking to look at the black. :)
He didn`t have any problems with popping anything in the first Season, other than the human Max and Roy. There was where the brothers had a difference in thinking but not in the "evil can be good"-side of the equation. That never ever came up before Bloodlust.
Does Sam relate to the Supernatural NOW more than Dean? Of course he does. And with good reason. He fears an inherent "otherness" in himself. It started with the visions and has ended with the DENSITY now. So he is desperate to see goodness in some of them, especially those who once were good people like Molly or those like Lenore who prove that nothing is written in stone.
That is a recent personally motivated development though, I don`t view it as a fundamental philosophy. And really, the guy`s mom was TOASTED over his head when he was a baby, hence he was screwed out of a Mom and his childhood was nomadic, centered on hunting beasties. What on god`s green earth should have motivated Sam to have sympathies for them in the past?
The vampires in Bloodlust introduced a new rule in the show`s universe: beasts can rise above their nature. And that was a lesson for both brothers since Sam changed his mind about vampires (and it could have been the simplest ruse there) a couple of hours before Dean. Both demanded proof, both needed to see something with their own eyes to believe. And both accepted it.
Maybe I have wildly distorted views but I don`t think someone can even break out of a black-and-white mold if they never did some navel-gazing in that regard. Starting to see shades of grey means to me that you were knowingly looking at things in black and white before. Not simply not giving it much thought one way or another. Or otherwise put, if someone comes out of a completely dark room, I wouldn` t say they have finally opened their eyes. :)
Recently there seem to be a theme of Dean haaaates them and Sam relaaaates to them (and they always did) anvils, that I find to be taken out of context.
In Roadkill the brothers were faced with a pretty, nah gorgeous woman and Dean didn`t make a move on her once, in fact he seemed to be PMSing in the ep. Whereas Sam did a Roma Downey/J.Love Hewitt/Michael Landon impersonation. The "twist" at the end revealed Molly to be a ghost and that seemed to be suitable explanation. And to a degree it was.
Bloodlust made a point about telling us how Dean has been raised to "hate these things". Which honestly threw me because I never got this big hate-vibe from him before. Does he like ghosts, shapeshifters and wendigos? Clearly not since I`m guessing the Winchesters encountered a lot of them in their days and all evil, killing bastards.
But still I see it more like a soldier, a soldier might hate the "enemy" as a concept or homogenous group or as Dean says in Wendigo "killing as many evil sons of bitches I can find" but do we really think he takes the time and effort to hate on every single one of them personally? Really? Or does he mostly just not give a shit and kills them? The latter seems to be more Dean to me.
Hate is something quite personal to me. Do the Winchesters hate the YED? For sure. Did Dean hate the Shtriga? Good case for it. Shape Shifters in general? Maybe a bit. Meg the Demon? I`m voting yay. But that doesn`t mean he hates on every Tom, Dick and Harry ghostie they encounter.
And that`s where Roadkill went overboard to me. It seemed awfully personal with him. So okay, he was annoyed at having to deal with her and uncomfortable and possible asking why the fuck she couldn`t move on by herself and everything was shown through her slightly distorted view of the boys but holy crap, subtlety is not for little men. I don`t mind him being cold and brusque, it`s not out of his character but like a real person he usually has reasons for being at his most jerkish. Like for example with the father in Cspwdt.
And Sam, I really don`t think growing up Sam was a big political activist for the rights of ghosts and werewolves. :) He wanted freaking out of this life, I hardly imagine he did give much thought to the evil entities out there, other than "why the hell must WE hunt them?" That`s not so much viewing grey as not liking to look at the black. :)
He didn`t have any problems with popping anything in the first Season, other than the human Max and Roy. There was where the brothers had a difference in thinking but not in the "evil can be good"-side of the equation. That never ever came up before Bloodlust.
Does Sam relate to the Supernatural NOW more than Dean? Of course he does. And with good reason. He fears an inherent "otherness" in himself. It started with the visions and has ended with the DENSITY now. So he is desperate to see goodness in some of them, especially those who once were good people like Molly or those like Lenore who prove that nothing is written in stone.
That is a recent personally motivated development though, I don`t view it as a fundamental philosophy. And really, the guy`s mom was TOASTED over his head when he was a baby, hence he was screwed out of a Mom and his childhood was nomadic, centered on hunting beasties. What on god`s green earth should have motivated Sam to have sympathies for them in the past?
The vampires in Bloodlust introduced a new rule in the show`s universe: beasts can rise above their nature. And that was a lesson for both brothers since Sam changed his mind about vampires (and it could have been the simplest ruse there) a couple of hours before Dean. Both demanded proof, both needed to see something with their own eyes to believe. And both accepted it.
Maybe I have wildly distorted views but I don`t think someone can even break out of a black-and-white mold if they never did some navel-gazing in that regard. Starting to see shades of grey means to me that you were knowingly looking at things in black and white before. Not simply not giving it much thought one way or another. Or otherwise put, if someone comes out of a completely dark room, I wouldn` t say they have finally opened their eyes. :)
