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[astri13]

I didn`t want to write anything more on this topic but what the heck I`m under serious medication. :)

So, full disclosure: I`m a woman. I like being a woman. It gives me advantages and disadvantages. However, how I approach both life and fictional situations is never: how does it affect me as a woman? How I approach things is always:
How does that make me feel as a person?

Because being a person defines me way before being a woman, a redhead, a lefty, a geek etc. And in that question I also look at the gender of the people involved second and their personalities first. Do they put me off? If so to what degree? Do they have kinks I can "live" with or not? I know I have my kinks and so do my friends and it`s basically the same there.

Context always matters. Especially in fictional universes. If fictional universes establish situation X, I`ll go by situation X if I value certain situations. Now I realize not everybody will go that way but I do.

Therefore, did I see an amped up fratboy humour in Season 3? Yes. Did I read misogyny in the show? No. In any of the characters? No.
It doesn`t fit my criteria for such and I will not apologize for that. I can explain as to why I feel this way but I won`t defend my right to feel this way. Because I don`t have to. That which doth offend you, doth not offend me. Simple as that.

Doesn`t make me silly, a hater, a shamer, an apologist, a bad woman or anything else. It means I have a different outlook in life. And unlike bodies in physics more than one opinion can be right and in one place at the same time.

Which is really all I have to say on the subject.

Comments

[prettyfreckles.livejournal.com]

I kind of love you for this. Thank you so much. Makes me feel like a bit less of a weirdo for feeling exactly the same way - only couldn't say it with anywhere near the finesse as you did.

[rheasilvia.livejournal.com]

Has there been even more discussion on this subject? I'd hoped it had died down...

[blacklid.livejournal.com]

Here from prettyfreckles's post. Very well stated. Thank you for writing it.

[lovis.livejournal.com]

The stupid is as infectious as the small-pox, eh?

Damn, I finally got curious enough to take a look at that FW thread... and made a fast retreat.

OhEmGee! They're completely nuts!

I don't even see Dean as a sexist and misogyny...??!

The mind - it boggles.

[andromakhe001.livejournal.com]

That's exactly how I feel. It's sort of like the idea "I need a female character to identify with"? I'm always like Huh? I've never needed female characters to identify with in a story, I identify with characters as people, based on their personality, not on their gender. I've never had the slightest problem identifying with male characters because I see them as people first, not men. If I like the characters and I like the story, I don't care if women are involved or not.

So yes, I do think the language got unimaginative and crude this past season, but NO I don't think it shows misogyny on the parts of the writers or the characters because of the context of that crude language and whom 90% of it was directed towards.