Got your comment. I feel so bad now that I started it in the first place. It was honeslty meant as just an off-hand commentary that right now I`m simply not feeling it and might retreat from fandom a bit.
And I just wanted to point out again that you shouldn't feel guilty about posting your opinion. You know I respect it. What happened wasn't your fault.
And I shall certainly not sweet-talk it in the future when I feel let down, it`s just that today I`m so deeply bummed I just wanted it over and done with.
Say what? Honey, you watched an ep of a tv show, formed an opinion and shared it with your flist. There is bugger all wrong with that! That's what your journal is for, there was nothing hurtful or unkind in it, you were just disappointed and explained quite rationally why. I read it through quickly earlier, agreed with some parts and didn't agree with others, but you don't need people to agree.
I hate that people feel the need to censor their own thoughts and opinions in case the rest of fandom take it the wrong way or overreact.
You`re right of course but I was bummed even further by it and considering I was starting in a pretty down mood, I just didn`t want to deal. So why I`m not entirely happy about censoring myself, right now it`s the lesser headache-inducing thing.
Naja, ich hatte geschrieben, dass ich im eventuell auf dem Markt für ein neues Fandom sein werde aber darum ging`s eigentlich gar nicht. Es brach dann eine relativ häßliche Diskussion aus zwischen zwei commentern und das zog noch ein bißchen Kreise und ich wollte nicht, dass das noch weiter geht.
Naja, ich hatte geschrieben, dass ich im eventuell auf dem Markt für ein neues Fandom sein werde
So schlimm? Ich meine, ich jetzt auch keine Luftsprünge über 3.02... Aber *so* schlimm war's dann auch wieder nicht. Und was für'n fandom soll's denn werden? *g*
So schlimm? Ich meine, ich jetzt auch keine Luftsprünge über 3.02... Aber *so* schlimm war's dann auch wieder nicht.
Es lag gar nicht mal so sehr an der Folge selbst - obwohl ich mit Sera Gamble`s writing inzwischen einige Probleme hab, schon allein der Storyaufbau "lass mich irgend `ne Schnitte von vor 9 Jahren besuchen, da stolpern wir schon von allein über `nen Fall" war grottig - sondern mehr am Kummulativeffekt. Ich mochte das Finale nicht, die Premiere und die jetzt auch nicht. Bei einigen Sachen sowohl in den Folgen jetzt als auch in den Spoilern rollen meine Augen.
Das heißt jetzt nicht, dass ich gleich aufhören werde zu gucken aber begeistern kann ich mich für die Serie im Moment nur retroaktiv. Mein Problem ist auch noch, ich kann mich nicht "downgraden". Wenn ich SPN schauen könnte wie Stargate gäb`s null Probleme.
Und was für'n fandom soll's denn werden? *g*
Keine Ahnung. Ich war froh nach Buffy/Angel das hier zu finden. Reines Anschauen kann ich bei vielen Shows haben. Aktiv fandom - da lichtet sich die Menge gewaltig.
Too bad I was too late to read what you thought - I'd have been interested in your thoughts. And I'm sorry to hear the eps mediocrity (in combination with the previous ones) is getting you so down...
Me, I'm pretty ho-hum about this ep, all in all - certainly nothing special, but nothing particularly bad, either. I liked some small bits, didn't like others at all, and am still very scared of all the things I was scared of before (and unsurprised that this is so). Basically, it's an ep I can ignore easily.
But then I get the impression that you expect more from SPN in terms of good plot than I do... low expectations do help.
I just made a little comment actually, no in-depth review and I`m feeling better today with the appearance of new promo pics and the reassurance that Cathryn Humphries still writes for the show. I`ve grown majorly disappointed with Sera Gamble`s writing, clumsy, lazy, anvillious, cheap laughs and the general overdoing of Dean the crude pig. Whatever.
and am still very scared of all the things I was scared of before
Yeah, not only does it look like SOD-ville but also like revisionist canon. I do hope that cup will pass us. Because everytime I hear stuff like this, my natural reaction is to go cross-eyed and start muttering "face it, Lana, you`re amazing". And I hate Lana with a passion.
But then I get the impression that you expect more from SPN in terms of good plot than I do... low expectations do help.
I wouldn`t say it`s plot so much also "can drive a truck through the holes" will get my hackles up. Just for overreaching main plots I want a bit more care going into it. Sometimes I downright get angry that they have actual actors who can act and the writing often doesn`t bring it. Can`t even imagine how mediocre actors would say these sometimes atrocious lines. In those last two I felt even Jensen was in over his head in making something of it.
Nope, it wasn`t up long but a discussion in the comments got out of hand and I simply didn`t want to leave it up for more people to join and fronts to be build.
I'm just getting around to reading posts I didn't get to last weekend and I just wanted to say I'm sorry things are going in such a way that people often feel like they can't even post their opinions in thier own f-lists. I've heard it from other people too. I thought the idea of f-lists was not that everyone should walk in lockstep on their opinions but so that way it could provide the feeling of security to post varying opinions.
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Date: 2007-10-12 06:33 pm (UTC)I hate that people feel the need to censor their own thoughts and opinions in case the rest of fandom take it the wrong way or overreact.
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Date: 2007-10-12 08:20 pm (UTC)So schlimm? Ich meine, ich jetzt auch keine Luftsprünge über 3.02... Aber *so* schlimm war's dann auch wieder nicht.
Und was für'n fandom soll's denn werden? *g*
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Date: 2007-10-12 08:28 pm (UTC)Es lag gar nicht mal so sehr an der Folge selbst - obwohl ich mit Sera Gamble`s writing inzwischen einige Probleme hab, schon allein der Storyaufbau "lass mich irgend `ne Schnitte von vor 9 Jahren besuchen, da stolpern wir schon von allein über `nen Fall" war grottig - sondern mehr am Kummulativeffekt. Ich mochte das Finale nicht, die Premiere und die jetzt auch nicht. Bei einigen Sachen sowohl in den Folgen jetzt als auch in den Spoilern rollen meine Augen.
Das heißt jetzt nicht, dass ich gleich aufhören werde zu gucken aber begeistern kann ich mich für die Serie im Moment nur retroaktiv. Mein Problem ist auch noch, ich kann mich nicht "downgraden". Wenn ich SPN schauen könnte wie Stargate gäb`s null Probleme.
Und was für'n fandom soll's denn werden? *g*
Keine Ahnung. Ich war froh nach Buffy/Angel das hier zu finden. Reines Anschauen kann ich bei vielen Shows haben. Aktiv fandom - da lichtet sich die Menge gewaltig.
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Date: 2007-10-12 09:40 pm (UTC)Me, I'm pretty ho-hum about this ep, all in all - certainly nothing special, but nothing particularly bad, either. I liked some small bits, didn't like others at all, and am still very scared of all the things I was scared of before (and unsurprised that this is so). Basically, it's an ep I can ignore easily.
But then I get the impression that you expect more from SPN in terms of good plot than I do... low expectations do help.
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Date: 2007-10-13 03:26 pm (UTC)and am still very scared of all the things I was scared of before
Yeah, not only does it look like SOD-ville but also like revisionist canon. I do hope that cup will pass us. Because everytime I hear stuff like this, my natural reaction is to go cross-eyed and start muttering "face it, Lana, you`re amazing". And I hate Lana with a passion.
But then I get the impression that you expect more from SPN in terms of good plot than I do... low expectations do help.
I wouldn`t say it`s plot so much also "can drive a truck through the holes" will get my hackles up. Just for overreaching main plots I want a bit more care going into it.
Sometimes I downright get angry that they have actual actors who can act and the writing often doesn`t bring it. Can`t even imagine how mediocre actors would say these sometimes atrocious lines. In those last two I felt even Jensen was in over his head in making something of it.
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Date: 2007-10-14 01:29 am (UTC)Was that a post that I commented to?
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