Bobby was just there, friend of John - with a falling out :) - and voila, no backstory necessary.
Exactly! We don't even know what the falling out was about, and it has never mattered to the show or the character. We can see that Bobby is not only a person of character, but someone on whom the Winchesters can depend. He helped Dean and Sam when they asked, and came when Sam called when they were all in the hospital. They had nobody else at the time, and he came, regardless of any argument he'd had with John.
All of that said a lot about his character, but also he was written with a great personality. He's gruff, but not mean or cruel. He is obviously intelligent and smart and knows a lot about his field (demons?) and can think logically and quickly.
One of the things I really disliked about Ellen is that she came across as overly harsh and overly pushy. Bobby might offer advice, but not in the same way. Bobby is more sharing his knowledge and insight with people he respects to use it wisely, whereas Ellen's "advice" comes across as "You stupid boys, don't you know..." or "You stupid, untrustworthy boys..." Even if she doesn't say the words, the things she says come across that way to me.
Bobby has respect for the guys, IMHO. He may act as a mentor sometimes, because he does have more extensive knowledge and experience, but he doesn't act like he thinks they can't handle it. I also think that Bobby's caring comes across in the way that he says things, and also in the things that he does (i.e. the way he handled Sam in IMTOD and the fact that he took the guys in and let them stay with him after John died for however long that was).
Ellen, OTOH, always comes across as if she not only doesn't trust them, but that she doesn't even trust them to take care of themselves. She doesn't treat them like the adults that they are, though of course she treats her own daughter the same way.
I looks really out there and crazy but in a good way. Hopefully the ratings will at least hold steady since fucking Grey`s Anatomy ended on a cliffhanger and is supposed to build even more this week. Stupid soap.
:-( I don't really understand about the ratings, but I'm hoping for SPN...whatever it needs, I hope it gets it. *g*
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Exactly! We don't even know what the falling out was about, and it has never mattered to the show or the character. We can see that Bobby is not only a person of character, but someone on whom the Winchesters can depend. He helped Dean and Sam when they asked, and came when Sam called when they were all in the hospital. They had nobody else at the time, and he came, regardless of any argument he'd had with John.
All of that said a lot about his character, but also he was written with a great personality. He's gruff, but not mean or cruel. He is obviously intelligent and smart and knows a lot about his field (demons?) and can think logically and quickly.
One of the things I really disliked about Ellen is that she came across as overly harsh and overly pushy. Bobby might offer advice, but not in the same way. Bobby is more sharing his knowledge and insight with people he respects to use it wisely, whereas Ellen's "advice" comes across as "You stupid boys, don't you know..." or "You stupid, untrustworthy boys..." Even if she doesn't say the words, the things she says come across that way to me.
Bobby has respect for the guys, IMHO. He may act as a mentor sometimes, because he does have more extensive knowledge and experience, but he doesn't act like he thinks they can't handle it. I also think that Bobby's caring comes across in the way that he says things, and also in the things that he does (i.e. the way he handled Sam in IMTOD and the fact that he took the guys in and let them stay with him after John died for however long that was).
Ellen, OTOH, always comes across as if she not only doesn't trust them, but that she doesn't even trust them to take care of themselves. She doesn't treat them like the adults that they are, though of course she treats her own daughter the same way.
I looks really out there and crazy but in a good way. Hopefully the ratings will at least hold steady since fucking Grey`s Anatomy ended on a cliffhanger and is supposed to build even more this week. Stupid soap.
:-( I don't really understand about the ratings, but I'm hoping for SPN...whatever it needs, I hope it gets it. *g*